Jewish OBGYNs should keep their knives, clamps, and scalpels off baby gentile genitalia
It is what it is.
I had a creepy interchange with a couple of female posters on Jewschool about metziza. One Chaya Taub claimed there as no problem with metziza, nor any need to consider the health risks, and empathized with concern about transmitting disease through this aspect of circumcision with the statement, “So one baby died.” Ms. Taub also suggested a desire to “fight” for this issue and compared the NY State Health Dept. to the ancient Greek oppressor Antiochus, and appeared to be endorsing something of a fundamentalist uprising against them and whoever else.
She was the least scary of the two.
More frightening was a woman named “Miriam”, who it appears, is an OBGYN, and justifies her mass implementation of circumcision on gentile boys because she is convinced that the covenant between G-d and Avraham was a health policy.
This was, in fact, one of the latter “tests” of Abraham, and when I brought explanations for his hesitancy from the Rambam and the Ibn Ezra, she ridiculed these great commentators in the most arrogant, Freudian of terms that I see no reason to post on my blog, though you are welcome to read them there yourselves.
What is disturbing is that she is not even aware of the reasons for gentiles not to circumcise nor of any functions of the forsekin itself (which protects the corona from desensitivity and aids intercourse through lubrication among other functions) and it therefore seems exceptionally unlikely she would explain them to parents as a consideration to not opt for this surgery which is currently a half a billion dollar industry annually with a very high profit margin, and which surely lines the white coat pockets of Miriam’s hospital and Miriam herself.
As Jews, we have no right to confuse our own theological narrative for medical science, a claim our own narrative never states, but rather, strongly suggests the opposite, and then to present it to the parents of gentile children as sound health policy, a false, frequently secular interpretation of a few select “choks” including bris but also kashrut and even shmita.
And Jews, particularly Jewish women, are disporportionately represented in the OBGYN field, and many are in fact inflicting their religious cultural biases masquerading as prophylactic care onto gentile baby boys though their knives.
If we could see past our own victomology (good luck on that one!)and cultural biases, we would see that this is, in fact, oppression, and one increasingly perceived as genital mutilation of others who have no such obligation even according to our own faith.
A faith, cultural inclination, and mitzvah that should not be pushed or forced on them.
Please stop.
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this comment by david kelsey is just irrelevant to anything having to do with facts. The isralei study has been debunked as proving anything- the facts and explanation of that isreli study was written about extensively, and anyone who wishes to here why can get the response from Rav Belsky , Rosh Yeshiva of Torah VDaas and on the OU Board of Kashrus, who is a mohel and a propoentn of metsitsah bipeh without a tube.
In short, the report from Israel left out obvious holes in the study on account of variables that the report simply ignred which makes the charges incolclusive at best.
The facts are with Rav Belsky who proved that based on the reports control survey where they claimed less than 10 kids were killed in Israle by mohelim, there was missing information about the parent testing for herpes that completely was ignored by the israeli scientists, sheer incompetence.
On the other hand , if we applied the METHODOLOGY ALONE TO THE uNITED sTATES, rAV bELSKY SHOWS IN WRITING WITH THE MATH INCLUDED - there should be about ten thousand dead jewish children in the United States on account of dying from metsitsah bipeh — and in fact there is not one ( unless you believed Rabbi Fisher had herpes even though he claims he doesnt and he was tested and all published records from the hospitals show no sign of herpes in ?Rabbi fisher. If one still wants to believe this nonsense then its because you WANT TO BELIEVE WITH A PERFECT BLIND FAITH THAT RABBI FISHER HAD HERPES- YET WHAT ABOUT THE 9,999 KIDS WHO WHOULD BE DEAD ANDF ARENT? OF COURSE JUST IGNORE THE SCIENCE ( I.E. THE MATH.)
BUT THE BEST RESPONSE IS THAT THE HEAD OF THE ENTIRE PEDIATRIC DEPARTMENT OF COLUMBIA PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL IN nEW YORK PUBLICLY DECLARED THAT METSITSAH BIPEH IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE AND SHOULD IN NO WAY BE STOPPED, AND THAT IN FACT THE SALIVA HAS TREMENDOUS ANTI MICROBIAL AND ANTI VIRAL AND ANTI BACTERIAL PROERTIES .
( OF COURSE NO ONE IS SAYING THAT A mOHEL WITH HERPES SHOULD DO A METSISTSAH BIPEH- AS rAV ELYASHUV MOST RECENTLY CAME OUT IN WRITING WITH)
AND FURTHERMORE, NO PUBLIC RESPONSE WAS GIVEN BY ANY DOCTOR RABBI IN nEW YORK AGAINST METSITSAH BIPEH WITHOUT A TUBE IN RESPONSE TO rAV bELSKY’S MATHEMATICALLY PRODUCED STATISTIC AS TO THE LACK OF DEATHS THAT SHOULD OTHERWISE HAVE COME ABOUT, AND THE DCOTOR RABBIS IN NEW YORK CLAMORING AGAINST METSITSAH BIPEH WITHOUT A TUBE HAVE ADDITONALLY MADE NO ARGUMENT AGAINST THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PEDIATRICS AT COLUMBIA PRESBYTERIAN IN NEW YORK.
[ OF OURSE THE DOCTOR RABBIS WHO CAME OUT AGAINST METSITSAH BIPEH WITHOUT A TUBE IN WRIITNG DID SO PRIOR TO rAv bELSKY’S EXPOSE ON THE ISRAELI STUDY AND PRIOR TO THE HEAD OF THE PEDIATRIUC DEPARTMENT IN COLUMBIA PRESBYTERIAN COMING OUT IN SUPPORT OF METSITSAH BIPEH WITHOUT A TUBE)
ONCE AGAIN, IT IS KELSEYS REPSONSBILITY TO REMOVE THIS DEFAMATION FROM THE SITE AGAINST THE GEDOLEI YISROEL WHICH ASI POSTED ELSEWHERE ON TJHIS SITE IS TIED WITH THE GRETEST CRIMES A JEW CAN DO
You ignore all the diseases throughout the ages, including perhaps most famously TB (consumption) and everything else transmittable by blood and saliva, which is a lot.
The issue is not just herpes or this specific mohel, but any communicable disease.
I take no stand on circumcision, but the move to do this to gentiles was actually an antimasturbation measure started by a man named John Harvey Kellog, inventer of the Kellog’s cornflake, and a Seventh Day Adventist.
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