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Arousal for Anti-Circ Camp Coming

Scientific evidence for circumcision as a prophylactic against Aids in Africa as a substitute for condoms (which are more effective) is typically being misappropriated by the Jewish community for areas where condoms are both readily available and used. That is to say, the west. It is for that reason that routine circumcision is not being advocated in Europe, and is not practiced. Misappropriation by Jewish bloggers is available here, here, and here.

But the general American landscape is not Jewish, and therefore less prone to swallowing our self-deception and cultural bias if they are given the opposing view. And the pro-circ camp is therefore in for a beating.

The Hankyoreh reports in “Circumcision reduces sexual satisfaction: study� that,

A survey of 373 men 30 years or older in South Korea was taken by Seoul National University professor Kim Dae-sik and JoongAng University professor Bang Myeong-geol. They found that men who underwent circumcision felt less sensation during orgasm while engaged in masturbation or sex than when they had been uncircumcised.

The research, which is scheduled to be posted to an academic journal in Britain in February, was conducted with 255 men who underwent circumcision after the age of 20 and 118 who did not.

According to the research, 20 percent answered that their level of satisfaction in sex fell after circumcision, compared with 6 percent who said the level rose. The remaining 74 percent said no change was seen after circumcision.�

While, “Statistically, there was no meaningful difference seen in terms of sexual desire, erectile function, never the less according to Dr. Bang, “We can make the conclusion that circumcision poses a negative impact on [enjoyment of] sex by damaging peripheral nerves.”

The report is “to be posted to an academic journal in Britain in February.� I predict it’s going to set off a wave of indignation. And the more we point to Africa, the more people will realize that isn’t the issue for us, and ask, “Why are the Jews insisting this is a health issue for them? And why do they want us to be a part of this?�

To all my readers, Happy Jesus Circumcision Day!

12 comments

1 Sean { 01.01.07 at 2:32 am }

The study states that 80% of the men interviewed did NOT notice any reduction in ther sexual sensitity while only 20% reported a reduction.

So the study should actually be entiteled “Circumcision does NOT reduce sexual satisfaction”.

2 POLJ { 01.01.07 at 3:02 am }

Color me in the 80%. I mean come on, it is interesting news that might have been misappropriated but it is about Jewish pride my man. Last I checked we get our tips nipped for some sort of deal Abraham made with God, and less to do with not getting the HIV. It is an added bonus that a clean cut keeps it all clean.

Regardless of the study, Jews will keep cutting their little boys cause that is what we are told to do. If people in Europe to cut their wee wees than that is their problem. The news is interesting in both cases; misappropriated or not.

3 Kol Ra'ash Gadol { 01.01.07 at 5:53 pm }

ALso, this is sort of irrelevant regarding circumscision as done by Jews at eight days; these are adult men who are being circumcised, which is, physiologically speaking, significantly different. Children have amazing regenerative powers. Which doens’t even begin to address the issue of self-reporting, and how notoriously bad at it human beings are (for example, perhaps these 20% expected to have a reduction in sensation).

But let’s suppose it’s all true. So what? I’ve never noticed that circumcised men lack the ability to have physical pleasure during sex (unlike circumcised girls, at whatever age it’s done). Why assume the more sensation the better. Maybe - supposing it’s true, which I highly doubt- it’s better to have less sensation for some reason?

4 DK { 01.01.07 at 7:53 pm }

“But let’s suppose it’s all true. So what? I’ve never noticed that circumcised men lack the ability to have physical pleasure during sex (unlike circumcised girls, at whatever age it’s done). ”

Simply untrue with FGM1.

5 ck { 01.02.07 at 10:56 am }

Kelsey! Circumcision rocks, smegma sucks. But it’s all elementary. I don’t care if non-Jews decide to get circumcised or not. My people and I have a covenant with God. Snipping the tips of our bad boys is just part of the deal. Everything else is moot.

How’s Babylon holding up without us by the way?

6 Mother in Israel { 01.03.07 at 1:01 pm }

Doesn’t the Rambam say that one of the reasons for circumcision is so there will be less sensation (and less desire for sin)? The anti-circs love to quote that.

7 Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) { 01.07.07 at 4:32 pm }

i thought the less sensation was supposed to be a plus because [assuming a heterosexual relationship] it makes it take more time for the man to orgasm, thereby making it more likely that the woman will also reach orgasm.

8 Steve { 01.08.07 at 4:21 am }

Steg so only women’s pleasure should be taken into account when subjecting MALE children to unnecesary surgery?

Even if what you say is true (and according to the study above it isn’t)
most guys would want all the sensitivity they can get. If it lasts longer but doesn’t feel as good, why bother? That’s why most guys prefer sex without condoms.

And btw according to study above intact men reached orgasm in average of 13 minutes while circumcised men took 11 minutes.

9 Steve { 01.08.07 at 4:24 am }

By the way here is study’s draft. 48% of men reported less pleasure during masturbation and 63% reported increased masturbation difficulty after circumcision.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en.....t=Abstract

10 Steve { 01.08.07 at 4:26 am }

Excuse me above link is wrong, here is the correct one.

http://www.blackwell-synergy.c.....06.06646.x

11 Laura { 01.08.07 at 8:57 am }

Kol Ra’ash Gadol, nobody talked about circumcised men not being to experience sexual pleasure but having reduced pleasure.

So let’s assume that above is true, you see no problem with performing a ritual religious surgery on a healthy child even if it causes a long-term harm such as reduced sexual pleasure?

12 Jerry { 01.08.07 at 12:28 pm }

“I predict itÂ’s going to set off a wave of indignation. And the more we point to Africa, the more people will realize that isnÂ’t the issue for us, and ask, “Why are the Jews insisting this is a health issue for them? And why do they want us to be a part of this?”

I predict it will be completely ignored by the western media, just like the study conducted by U.S. military about HIV infection and circumcision status link was (the result of the study was that circumcision does not reduce HIV infection in their sample, in fact it slightly increased the risk). Here is the study in question:

http://www.iasociety.org/abstr.....id=2176002

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