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NCSY signals Modern Orthodox isn’t really Orthodox

On the website “Why Date Jewish?,� a “project of NCSY,� which is really an appeal for liberal Jewish parents to look upon their proselytizing work and the kiruv movement as a whole with less apprehension and resistance (than is warranted, parents should be very afraid) since it encourages endogamy.

Anyway, lchaimlover over at Oybay ponders the existential question of whether or not intermarriage is a bad thing. Of course, that’s right where NCSY and the kiruvniks want you! On the Big Questions, on Hashkafa.

I can’t help you with those questions, lchaimlover. But if you let me, I’ll show you a sleight of hand I found interesting.

Note that for this study, the two categories for Orthodox Jews are: Modern Orthodox and Orthodox. That’s it. No category for ultra-Orthodox. No such thing. Rather, Modern Orthodoxy is not quite Orthodox. In between Conservative and Orthodox.

Do you see the way NCSY subtly disparages Modern Orthodoxy and makes haredism – no matter how fahfrumpt – seem like normative Judaism? Modern Orthodox isn’t quite Orthodox. But say, metziza b’peh performing, Yiddish as a first language Chassidim, well…that’s just regular Orthodox!

Isn’t NCSY clever and tricky?

But wait! This study is from the “simple to remember” site. Maybe I should be blaming them, not NCSY! Maybe NCSY only transferred the chart as is?

Nope. Simple to Remember divides these categories into Centrist Orthodox versus Yeshiva/Hasidic Orthodox.

This is NCSY’s own unfortunate (but revealing) choice of terms.

4 comments

1 judi { 06.19.07 at 5:46 am }

Let me try to explain this for you, DK: Modern Orthodoxy is not as good as Orthodox because their hypothetical birthrate is only about half of that of real Orthodox Jews (3.23 vs. 6.4 (is that a typo? shouldn’t it be 16.4?) kids per family). Sounds like modern orthodoxy is nothing but a liberal eco-conspiracy!

2 Stanley Kards { 06.19.07 at 2:01 pm }

Yes but whydatejewish.com does not state on that web site that it is part of NCSY.

3 Stanley Kards { 06.19.07 at 2:02 pm }

it states that it is a project of.

this gives them distance.

4 DK { 06.19.07 at 4:30 pm }

Oh, please. It was written and compiled by “Rabbi Jack” Abramowitz. Just like negiah.org.

NCSY isn’t just frummer than the RWMO Orthodox Union…some of their more haredi brass actively spit at their back.

In contrast to Rabbi Weinreb, Rabbi Jack also tries to convince teens to reject scientific method when inconvenient to literal translation, though he doesn’t exactly insist you have to accept that, and contradicts himself by talking about previous worlds. They guy should really stick to crowd surfing instead of biology darshening.

Check it out: http://burgncsy.org/index.php/.....hread/142/

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