NCSY’s New Site
“Inspiring A Fahfrumpte Future”
NCSY is allowing a bit of a preview of their new site. If the front page is any indication, the new glitzy site is even more deceptive than the last one (as if that’s really possible). “Inspiring the Jewish Future,� is the new catch phrase – nothing about “making them frum� and sending them to Touro instead of a decent, normal college.
Additionally, I predict that Rabbi Burg will take down his “personal” blog, which he has not updated since May, in order to attempt to prevent his words from being used against him by taking them in context.
NCSY is sucking up Jewish communal funds like a street whore snorts up coke, and using our public schools as a base for recruitment to Orthodoxy, often right-wing Orthodoxy.
Make no mistake about it – these guys are laughing at the liberal Jewish community and its weakness. And rightly so. What a joke we are. Who is even protesting what they are doing on a communal level? No one knows, no one cares.
If I met Rabbi Burg on the street, he would surely laugh at me. He would laugh at the audacity that I think I could stop anything he or the Orthodox Union intends for secular Jewish public school teens. NCSY will continue to send teens into haredism. NCSY will continue to send teens to Touro. And NCSY will continue to send teens into poverty. NCSY will continue to do so through recruitment from the public schools, and with Federation and liberal Jewish funding.
Why wouldn’t he laugh? Rabbi Burg and the other OUniks are laughing all the way to the bank.
Pizza, anyone?
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tsk tsk, DK. Didn’t we mention something about easing up on these people….pyramids and mushrooms and such?
if they want to be stupid and
1) have red marks on their arm every morning
2) not be able to go to any fast food joints
3) not be able to have any fun one day a week
4) not be able to talk to the opposite sex,
5) have to wear a strict dress code or be
considered an outsider
THEN LET THEM
Failed Messiah -
I would rather do all those minor things then live a meaningless existance and find out G-d was serious when he meant those things
HOW DO I LIVE WITH RED MARKS ON MY ARM??? THE HORROR!!!!!
Alex,
The parents need to know what is going on. This public school infestation must be understood better.
Fran,
Even Jewish tradition acknowledges that many of these rules were man made.
kosher? teffilin? shabbat?
I really hope ur not refering to those
oh and also Messiah….Just because u can only have fun when ur watching tv and ignoring people doesnt mean that it isnt a fun day for those of us who are actually social and have friends.
DK how is this for an idea-
Ben Nida Awareness for secular Jews and Jews considering becoming orthodox.
btw because Fran called me Messiah I just wanted to say that I am absolutely unaffiliated with Failed Messiah. I just make comments.
Fran,
Kosher? Oh, clearly NONE of those rules are man mind. Same with many of the Sabbath prohibitions. They were all halacha l’moshe b’ Sinai, just with a delay of thousands of years before they were to be implemented.
Are you kidding? Have u ever read the torah? It freaking spends a ton of time on what you can and cannot eat. Some of the regulations we are are rabinnical (of course that too is straight from the torah) but the concept? The specific animals we cant eat? Thats just plain ignorance
At least claiming it isnt in the torah is ignorance (which is interesting because the more critical people are the less they know about the subject they are attacking…hmmm wonder why)
Fran,
Go bathe a chicken in its mother’s milk.
See you dont even have a good response because u realize that u were wrong.
Oh and i was planning on it, right after i kill a man, cheat on my wife and steal my neighbors car that i covetted (why not break em all)
Fran,
My point was that chicken is pareve.
i know what ur point was, and without reading the torah its valid. Of course if you have read it you would realize that tekanahs by the rabbis are considered from the torah too.
“Of course if you have read it you would realize that tekanahs by the rabbis are considered from the torah too.”
Fran, I know that’s the party haredi line, but do you personally believe that?
Wow Fran and DK -
you guys going back and forth is really entertaining. You should have a joint blog…The Kvetcher and the Creationist or something.
Could be very interesting
“I would rather do all those minor things then live a meaningless existance and find out G-d was serious when he meant those things”
Fran,
This is the second post of this sort I’ve seen from you within the past week. What is it you’re saying, precisely? Are you threatening us with Gehinnom?
im not threatening ne1 with anything, firstly because im not G-d secondly cause im not his accountant.
What i’m saying is that i wonder what the purpose of all your lives is if not for a higher purpose?
I think it’s presumptuous to assume that others’ lives aren’t lived in accordance with a “higher purpose”, because they don’t agree with one’s understanding of Tanakh, Halacha, or of any sacred literature.
An Orthodox rabbi, far more religious than I, told me recently, “You are undoubtedly where HaShem wants you to be. No one else can tell you what you ought to be doing.”
Sorry go agree with Fran on this one…..That orthodox rabbi has obviously never read the torah specifically where it says (roughly translated) “you shall surely rebuke your brother”.
What does that mean then?
Rebuke for what? For disagreeing?
Yeah, that’s right. The rabbi never read that passage in the Torah. He was absent from yeshiva the day they covered it.
You want to take literally all of the Biblical injunctions? Fine. We have a Sanhedrin again. Let’s go back to executing rebellious adolescents and people who pick up sticks on Shabbat.
Simmy,
I have found that Orthodox Jews (and especially Lubabs) are quite thin skinned when faced with criticism that’s coming from outside Orthodox communities.
Thank you for saying what i was thinking Simmy.
“An Orthodox rabbi, far more religious than I, told me recently, ‘You are undoubtedly where HaShem wants you to be. No one else can tell you what you ought to be doing.”
That rabbi is wrong, you have a BIBILICAL OBLIGATION to tell someone when they are doing something wrong.
Also, just because the Orthodox jews you have found DK are thin skinned doesnt mean they all are, i find it hard to believe any orthodox jew worth his weight in anything would be afraid of anything you have to say, since your arguments have no REAL basis other then your feelings while they would have the WORD OF G-D at this disposal
Thoughts for Yom Kippur
What i’ve felt
What i’ve known
Never shined through in what i’ve shown
Never be
Never see
Won’t see what might have been
What i’ve felt
What i’ve known
Never shined through in what i’ve shown
Never free
Never me
Metallica, the Unforgiven
I love Metallica’s song the Unforgiven as well as most of his other songs. The Unforgiven in particular resonates with me because I can relate to it. I used to have a flirtation with Orthodox Juaism but not anymore. I thought it was the only authentic form of Judaism as does anyone who is sympathetic to Orthodox Judaism. Since at least a year ago I stopped believing that. I came to the decision that the life of orthodoxy wasn’t for me, for two reasons. First, is that freedom of thought is nonexistent in Orthodox Judaism. I value my right and my ability to think for myself and to come to my own conclusions, which is something that Orthodox Judaism would take away. If one dare disagree with the rabbis even the most minute aspect of religion, the Orthodox Jews will shun the person. Secondly, Orthodox Judaism is too strict.
Orthodox Judaism makes the rules of the religion a hundred times stricter than the Old Testament intended, and then shuns everyone who does not go down their ultra-asceticist path in which computers and television are discouraged, talking to the opposite sex is discouraged, and college degrees and careers are discouraged; even though in the Torah there is a very minimum amount of noncriminal, wrongdoings in the eyes of the religion that one is to be shunned for. Newsflash for Orthodox Jews: using electricity on Shabbat is not one of them, nor is eating cheeseburgers. Thank goodness that Orthodox Jews don’t get to make any secular laws. If one were to take the logic that Orthodox Jews take for religious rules for secular ones, everyone would get the death penalty for the terrible horrible crime of calling someone a name.
Is calling someone a name wrong? Yes. Does it warrant death? No. For a system of laws to be just, there has to be proportion, and it would seem that the Orthodox Jews have lost their sense of proportion with the laws of the Pentateuch centuries ago (I’m mostly referring to dietary laws here, Sabbath also to an extent) when they started applying the most strict punishment available for noncriminal wrongdoings - shunning for every little thing that one does not follow, whereas the Torah only says that one is shunned for only a minimum amount of deeds that go contrary to it. That in and of itself, goes against the system of proportion that the Torah laid out.
Dress codes in yeshivas are stupid and make Judaism needlessly strict and unenjoyable. So does the way Orthodox Jews interpret dietary laws. So does the way that Orthodox Jews interpret the Sabbath. You know something? I work, so I think I earned that my free time is for doing what I want. Rest day means I do what I want. I take care of my responsibilities and on my weekend, I do what I want. The way Orthodox Jews do the Sabbath, one can’t do what he wants and one has to dress formally for it. It doesn’t look like a rest day if you ask me, just a work day that you don’t get paid for except in stupid propaganda that God will make sure that you’re ok. ( I thought in Judaism it was not allowed to rely on miracles )
What I really can’t stand, and perhaps hate about Orthodox Judaism, is how Orthodox Jews equate a lifetime of learning religious texts with a lifetime of working. There is no rule that says that in order to be successful in the next world, that you have to be f##king looser with no money in this world. Any Orthodox Jew who tries to justify the kollel bums by saying “oh they are just following a different path than you” should give up his bank account. After all, a path of working is equally acceptable to a path of learning religious texts. Right? Riiiiiiight? Not when it comes to one’s own money I guess.
What these kollel bums do is shun having college degrees and careers, thereby being poor bums with no money in the name of God. I can just imagine Avraham, Yitschak, and Yaakov holding back God’s arm holding the thunderbolt from striking down these idiots.
In conclusion, listen to Metallica’s song the Unforgiven. You will enjoy it.Read the lyrics also. Then make the determination, if you haven’t already done so, to be, think and be and do as you will, not as self proclaimed experts (rabbis with long beards who are too stupid to take off their heavy black jackets in hundred degree weather) will.
Oh and by the way, while in Orthodox Judaism there is a contingent of normal people, for anyone of you guys who fits my description of what I criticize in this post, and there is not an insignificant number of you, I dub thee unforgiven.
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