Vacation Until After Thanksgiving
Sometimes even a die hard New Yorker needs a break, so I’m heading out to Old Amsterdam, the City of Spinoza, and returning, meertz Hashem, for Thanksgiving with my family. I don’t think I will be blogging from Amsterdam, because as the folks at Cross-Currents always say, “If you think you’re too baked to blog, you are too baked to blog.�
So wish me well. And just one final thing, before I head out…
This time of year is often the time when some religiously minded Jewish blogs tackle the issue of Thanksgiving as a nisht pushet (not simple) controversy. True, the haredi Agudath Israel makes sure to have their annual conference on “what is called Thanksgiving Weekend,� (Good Grief!) but what do I care? You sure as shit aren’t going to see that kind of contempt for Thanksgiving from the Orthodox Union, who, unlike the Agudah, was born and bred right here in the good ole U.S. of A. So I paid it little mind at first. Sure, it is expected fare for a site like BeyondBT to discuss (a lot), but the administrators are quite supportive of those who celebrate Thanksgiving, and David Linn is careful to note that he personally celebrates Thanksgiving, and everyone is encouraged to be sensitive to family needs.
And yet…this “controversy� just won’t go away. I can’t believe who actually takes this “shayla� seriously. WTF is the problem? It’s (for my family, anyway) a kosher turkey dinner with kosher wine, with family and friends, with my father reminding us how lucky we all are to be here, and to be grateful. Our rabbi and rebbetzin stop by, and they’re Orthodox. I mean, Jesus Christ, we’re not bowing down to a statue of Zeus over here. It’s not like Chanukah. So when I saw Jewbiquitous treating this as a serious issue, with a headline even seeming to side with those who sought to forbid Thanksgiving celebrations, I became concerned, and quite frankly, a little upset. And it’s time to set them and whoever else is treating this meshegas seriously straight. And yes, I have been waiting a year to do this. So take a beat. Cause now the jokes stop, and I say what I have been meaning to say for awhile.
The question of whether it is kosher to celebrate Thanksgiving or not is a post-war phenomenon, appropriate only for post-war haredim. For those of us whose families came before, like mine, this is not a question, nor should it be. Those rabbis and communities who question it often come from post-war communities that have “treifa medina� residue. These people have no right to pasken for us on American issues (or really, on any issues), because our families wisely defied their leadership by coming here in the first place. They are the rabbinical heirs to those haredi leaders who gave some really, really stupid advice. At best. They have absolutely no business telling ANYONE whose family came here prior to WWII ANYTHING regarding America. They should stick to dictating to their own insular communities.
And you, or any BT, really, has no business even considering their position on such issues. They insisted that our families should stay in Russia and Eastern Europe. Be thankful your ancestors dismissed their exhortations about going to the “treifa medinah,� or if they were survivors, be thankful they made it here eventually.
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Thanksgiving offends me as a vegetarian far more than it offends me as a Jew!
“Never before has the camp of chareidim ledvar Hashem so eloquently disproven the naysayers who predicted the demise of Orthodoxy in the United States. This year, history is being made.”
Their world is hemorrhaging, and they’re in complete denial. I did like the fact that so many of the topics at the conference dealt with how to offer help to those in need - I just wish I could feel that they meant all Jews in need, not just those whose families are impoverished because they want to learn full time.
They have absolutely no business telling ANYONE whose family came here prior to WWII ANYTHING regarding America. They should stick to dictating to their own insular communities.
Absolutely!
Have a great time in Amsterdam!
Oh, honey, really? I can promise you, from the bottom of my Harley heart, that Jewbiquitous treated the question of the kashrut of Thanksgiving not in seriousness, but in jest. Entirely tongue in cheek. You can tell because Annie let me write it and I am strictly forbidden by all religious denominations from paskening halakha. I love Thanksgiving! But you probably should cite me as a source, I also love ham.
…And I always thought that Torah and Halacha transcend location and time, and that the Rabunim were here to guide us accordingly. How foolish of me…
Halacha transcend’s time? History? That is indeed naive. If times did not change, neither would halacha have changed.
Wakey, wakey, Mr. Goldberg.
no its naive to believe that G-d the creator of heaven and earth created something that would only last a certain amount of time.
Halacha changes to go with the time, YOU may not like it, but EVERYTHING is brough back to the source….the torah
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