To be clear on Nefesh B’ Nefesh…
August 20, 2008 Israel, Jewlicious
While I do not believe there is any particularly good reason at this time in history for a Diaspora Jew to feel obligated to pack up and relocate to Israel…never the less, I think it is a good thing that Nefesh B’ Nefesh is there to help them if that’s what they want. I think any organization that helps nice young people like Danielle (and even not so nice and not so young people like Aussie Dave!) achieve their dreams is doing a good thing.
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Translation: You’d be sitting next to her on that one-way flight if she let you.
Wait, did they give you a free trip to Israel in exchange for blogging about Nefesh B’Nefesh, too?
Oh the cynicism! Danielle is awesome – she just packed up and headed off to Tel Aviv when she landed. She has a place to stay for 2 days and when asked what she’ll do afterwards was all “I’ll figure it out.” She’s smart, personable, educated and decidedly secular and I think it’s cool of Kelsey to step back for a moment and recognize that despite ideological issues, there are real people involved in all of this. Real people with hopes and aspirations and that NBN helps ‘em out. Does one really need inducement to recognize the humanity of all this?
“I’ll figure it out.”
Oyish. Good luck to her.
Sarah,
When I landed in Israel I knew that I had a place to say for about two weeks, then I had to figure it out. And out of the blue a great guy, tzaddik in his own right, surfaced,let me crash on his couch until I had something figured out for myself. A lot of people have stories like that in Israel. The land and its people look out for you.
HalfSours,
It’s been a while since I was in Israel (10+ years), so I assume things must have changed; e.g. back then, we had to give proof at the border that we had valid health insurance covering us in Israel, otherwise we’d have been denied immigration. I’m still amused by the opening hours of banks in Israel.
Opening hours of banks? Is it late? All my money remained in American banks while I lived there.
I was staying in a little town in the Negev, so choices were limited.
Buying stamps was an adventure of its own.
FYI, I immigrated from Australia without any help from anyone. Just the hard earned money in my bank account. There was no NBN then, and even if there was, I don’t think they deal with immigration from Australia.
Not so young? How old do you think I am?
And do you normally call those who disagree with you “not nice”?
Aussie Dave,
When people praise that my friends and I were excluded from a conference and call our positions “anti-Judaism,” I consider that “not nice.”
I should note that although we disagree on many issues, I never called for you to be excluded.
For the umpteenth time, you were not excluded!
Aussie Dave, this is about you and your Kooknik homies, not Nefesh B’ Nefesh. Even your fellow religious-Zionist ck was clearly annoyed by your pro-exclusionary language and the language of your like-minded Kooknik friends. I would suggest you find a way to be more tolerant of those who don’t share your exact POV, and stop putting everyone in some far-Left “anti-Judaism” corner just because we don’t share your RW religious-Zionist emphasis on everything.
I don’t think ck will appreciate you speaking on his behalf, just like I don’t appreciate you misrepresenting my views.
I didn’t lump everyone in some far-Left “anti-Judaism” corner. Just Failed Messiah, who’s blog really seems dedicated to criticizing Orthodox Judaism.
If you cared to read some of the write-ups of the conference, you would see that some of the panelists were more to the Left, and received a very good response from those of us more to the Right.
You’re so barking up the wrong tree.
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