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		<title>By: Vivek Golikeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Golikeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DK said I was &quot;playing a racial-Marxist God.&quot; No problem, but I&#039;m glad he raised the Marxism issue. My attitude toward Marx and his ideas is exactly the same thing Marx himself did with Hegel. Neither repudiate his ideas, nor affirm them, but &quot;turn him right-side up.&quot;

I believe that Karl Marx was a prophet, subconsciously receiving his inspiration from the same Higher Power whose existed he denied. Due to the messenger rebelling against the Divine Source, the message got screwed up inside the messenger&#039;s vision.

The truth is like a jigsaw puzzle, and all departments of human knowledge hold pieces of it. Truth is never available on a silver platter. Indeed, that is exactly the myth that traditional approach to religion is based on. Abdication of the responsibility of thought and inquiry by just believing whatever nonsense so-called revealed scripture tells you. Now, the scriptures of all major faiths contain much beauty and wisdom. Yet ultimately, a person knows nothing simply by being told.

I love reading (and reading about ) German philosophers and the German philosophical tradition itself. Germany is possibly to Christendom what India is to the East. No other Euro-Christian country has produced quite the same number of deep thinkers and profound ideas.

My ideas and beliefs about the coming downfall of western civilization, likewise, are rooted in the ideas of a more recent German philosopher, Oswald Spengler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK said I was &#8220;playing a racial-Marxist God.&#8221; No problem, but I&#8217;m glad he raised the Marxism issue. My attitude toward Marx and his ideas is exactly the same thing Marx himself did with Hegel. Neither repudiate his ideas, nor affirm them, but &#8220;turn him right-side up.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe that Karl Marx was a prophet, subconsciously receiving his inspiration from the same Higher Power whose existed he denied. Due to the messenger rebelling against the Divine Source, the message got screwed up inside the messenger&#8217;s vision.</p>
<p>The truth is like a jigsaw puzzle, and all departments of human knowledge hold pieces of it. Truth is never available on a silver platter. Indeed, that is exactly the myth that traditional approach to religion is based on. Abdication of the responsibility of thought and inquiry by just believing whatever nonsense so-called revealed scripture tells you. Now, the scriptures of all major faiths contain much beauty and wisdom. Yet ultimately, a person knows nothing simply by being told.</p>
<p>I love reading (and reading about ) German philosophers and the German philosophical tradition itself. Germany is possibly to Christendom what India is to the East. No other Euro-Christian country has produced quite the same number of deep thinkers and profound ideas.</p>
<p>My ideas and beliefs about the coming downfall of western civilization, likewise, are rooted in the ideas of a more recent German philosopher, Oswald Spengler.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Golikeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Golikeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DK, I am fully aware that my ideas are out-of-the-box for most on Kvetcher. But I write intelligently and respectfully, and as long as forum authorities don&#039;t tell me to stop, will share my ideas.

Yes, I might indeed be &quot;playing a racial-Marxist God&quot; from the viewpoint of some. But so what? I have neither broken any laws, nor personally abused anyone, nor used objectionable language. The free expression of new or controversial ideas is central to US democracy. If I stand accused of making good use of the Bill of Rights, I am guilty as charged.

Stick around and read my posts. They might sounds like craziness to you, but it never hurts to look through a window into a different soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK, I am fully aware that my ideas are out-of-the-box for most on Kvetcher. But I write intelligently and respectfully, and as long as forum authorities don&#8217;t tell me to stop, will share my ideas.</p>
<p>Yes, I might indeed be &#8220;playing a racial-Marxist God&#8221; from the viewpoint of some. But so what? I have neither broken any laws, nor personally abused anyone, nor used objectionable language. The free expression of new or controversial ideas is central to US democracy. If I stand accused of making good use of the Bill of Rights, I am guilty as charged.</p>
<p>Stick around and read my posts. They might sounds like craziness to you, but it never hurts to look through a window into a different soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Blode0322</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blode0322</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VG - 
I didn&#039;t realize until now that religion had anything to do with our beliefs.  I&#039;m not going to laugh at religious beliefs I don&#039;t share as long as they are sincerely held, and I don&#039;t doubt your sincerity.  

I don&#039;t know what the future holds and I can only hope that the chaos and suffering of the past doesn&#039;t have to repeated.  I suspect I will live to see some interesting times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VG &#8211;<br />
I didn&#8217;t realize until now that religion had anything to do with our beliefs.  I&#8217;m not going to laugh at religious beliefs I don&#8217;t share as long as they are sincerely held, and I don&#8217;t doubt your sincerity.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the future holds and I can only hope that the chaos and suffering of the past doesn&#8217;t have to repeated.  I suspect I will live to see some interesting times.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivek, quite frankly, you are playing a racial-Marxist God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivek, quite frankly, you are playing a racial-Marxist God.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivek wrote,

&lt;i&gt;I cannot justly ask you to accept my views, because they are mixed together with my religious beliefs. For example, I believe that persons who committed certain atrocities centuries ago sometimes can come back to suffer the same poetic justice. Hindu brahmins who mistreated untouchables might have reincarnated as blacks who suffered under Jim Crow. Or the souls of white soldiers who mistreated Cherokees on President Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears might have resided inside the bodies of US servicemen on the brutal Death March on Bataan.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, first of all, I appreciate you are being candid about your understanding of the universe, and it was also good of you to concede why one would perceive a double standard at the beginning of your latest post. 

However,  you are invoking religious beliefs that no one else shares on this blog, as most Kvetcher readers are either Jewish or Christian (and one prominent Jew-Bu -- hi Jeff!), and that includes reincarnation as your justification for all sorts of present/future suffering.

 WADR, you have entered an area that is outside of historical and  political discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivek wrote,</p>
<p><i>I cannot justly ask you to accept my views, because they are mixed together with my religious beliefs. For example, I believe that persons who committed certain atrocities centuries ago sometimes can come back to suffer the same poetic justice. Hindu brahmins who mistreated untouchables might have reincarnated as blacks who suffered under Jim Crow. Or the souls of white soldiers who mistreated Cherokees on President Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears might have resided inside the bodies of US servicemen on the brutal Death March on Bataan.</i></p>
<p>Well, first of all, I appreciate you are being candid about your understanding of the universe, and it was also good of you to concede why one would perceive a double standard at the beginning of your latest post. </p>
<p>However,  you are invoking religious beliefs that no one else shares on this blog, as most Kvetcher readers are either Jewish or Christian (and one prominent Jew-Bu &#8212; hi Jeff!), and that includes reincarnation as your justification for all sorts of present/future suffering.</p>
<p> WADR, you have entered an area that is outside of historical and  political discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Golikeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Golikeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I see how you can see it as a double standard. Japan is so crowded that I can&#039;t see too many wanting to go there. Yet even extremely tribalist Japan has felt forced by economic and demographic needs to open a little. Japan did horrible things to other people between 1853 and 1945. But she burned up much of her bad karma due to the suffering at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the humiliation of defeat the great war brought her.

Read History and you&#039;ll see that every civilization, however blessed, has gradually been either degraded or destroyed by the accumulated burden of its own wrong-doing. Atlantis and Sodom-Gomorrah were literally destroyed. The Roman Empire collapsed.  Ancient Egypt was repeatedly conquered, and eventually lost its character. China and India deteriorated, and were overrun by foreign invaders.

I cannot justly ask you to accept my views, because they are mixed together with my religious beliefs. For example, I believe that persons who committed certain atrocities centuries ago sometimes can come back to suffer the same poetic justice.  Hindu brahmins who mistreated untouchables might have reincarnated as blacks who suffered under Jim Crow. Or the souls of white soldiers who mistreated Cherokees on President Andrew Jackson&#039;s Trail of Tears might  have resided inside the bodies of US servicemen on the brutal Death March on Bataan.

Nations and populations also have collective karma even as individuals do.  For example, the Hostage Crisis in the Tehran embassy can be seen as poetic justice from the Universe (you would speak of the Higher Power as a personal God) for the mistreatment of Japanese-Americans during the internment episode.

There is no double standard.  India and China were once the envy of the world in Marco Polo&#039;s time. Look how degraded they became by the times of the Opium Wars or the Bengal Famine.  Blode, do you remember that Jewish ritual chant at a Passover seder: &quot;frogs, blood, lice, and the killing of the first-born?&quot;

THAT is what is happening today to western civilization and the race that has ruled the roost. You can laugh should you choose, but then consistency would demand that you equally ridicule the Christian belief about Jesus rising from the dead.  After all, there&#039;s no more way of absolutely proving that, either. Belief ultimately depends on conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I see how you can see it as a double standard. Japan is so crowded that I can&#8217;t see too many wanting to go there. Yet even extremely tribalist Japan has felt forced by economic and demographic needs to open a little. Japan did horrible things to other people between 1853 and 1945. But she burned up much of her bad karma due to the suffering at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the humiliation of defeat the great war brought her.</p>
<p>Read History and you&#8217;ll see that every civilization, however blessed, has gradually been either degraded or destroyed by the accumulated burden of its own wrong-doing. Atlantis and Sodom-Gomorrah were literally destroyed. The Roman Empire collapsed.  Ancient Egypt was repeatedly conquered, and eventually lost its character. China and India deteriorated, and were overrun by foreign invaders.</p>
<p>I cannot justly ask you to accept my views, because they are mixed together with my religious beliefs. For example, I believe that persons who committed certain atrocities centuries ago sometimes can come back to suffer the same poetic justice.  Hindu brahmins who mistreated untouchables might have reincarnated as blacks who suffered under Jim Crow. Or the souls of white soldiers who mistreated Cherokees on President Andrew Jackson&#8217;s Trail of Tears might  have resided inside the bodies of US servicemen on the brutal Death March on Bataan.</p>
<p>Nations and populations also have collective karma even as individuals do.  For example, the Hostage Crisis in the Tehran embassy can be seen as poetic justice from the Universe (you would speak of the Higher Power as a personal God) for the mistreatment of Japanese-Americans during the internment episode.</p>
<p>There is no double standard.  India and China were once the envy of the world in Marco Polo&#8217;s time. Look how degraded they became by the times of the Opium Wars or the Bengal Famine.  Blode, do you remember that Jewish ritual chant at a Passover seder: &#8220;frogs, blood, lice, and the killing of the first-born?&#8221;</p>
<p>THAT is what is happening today to western civilization and the race that has ruled the roost. You can laugh should you choose, but then consistency would demand that you equally ridicule the Christian belief about Jesus rising from the dead.  After all, there&#8217;s no more way of absolutely proving that, either. Belief ultimately depends on conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Blode0322</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blode0322</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;My only disagreement —- which really ruffled rightist feathers —- was my statement that countries created by European usurpation have no moral right to keep out non-whites.&lt;/I&gt;

And I have asked you how you justify your double standard.  Japan was created by the usurpation of territory occupied by the Ainu, yet I don&#039;t see you criticizing Japanese immigration policies.  Turkey was created when the Seljuk Turks usurped territory held by other people.  

You can create for me, if you want, a list of nations that you believe were not created by usurpation.  Are those the only ones that have the right to keep out others?  Or is usurpation okay as long as the usurpers and the victims are of the same approximate skin color?  

What exactly does it mean to be a moderate member of a religion whose holy book says:
9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

The idea of separating moderate from fundamentalist Muslims is used to delegitimize efforts to restrict immigration into European countries, (whether or not leftists considers them to be the products of &quot;European usurpation&quot;).  The Turks causing all the violence in Cologne aren&#039;t necessarily devout.  Who cares?  Moderate Muslims are fully capable of &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzammil_Hassan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beheading their spouses&lt;/A&gt;, &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://looklex.com/e.o/pahlavi1.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sympathizing with Hitler&lt;/A&gt;, calling for the murder of Rushie, etc.  If Europe keeps out self-described Muslim extremists, but not the Muzzammil Hassans, it&#039;s not much good for Europe, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My only disagreement —- which really ruffled rightist feathers —- was my statement that countries created by European usurpation have no moral right to keep out non-whites.</i></p>
<p>And I have asked you how you justify your double standard.  Japan was created by the usurpation of territory occupied by the Ainu, yet I don&#8217;t see you criticizing Japanese immigration policies.  Turkey was created when the Seljuk Turks usurped territory held by other people.  </p>
<p>You can create for me, if you want, a list of nations that you believe were not created by usurpation.  Are those the only ones that have the right to keep out others?  Or is usurpation okay as long as the usurpers and the victims are of the same approximate skin color?  </p>
<p>What exactly does it mean to be a moderate member of a religion whose holy book says:<br />
9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.</p>
<p>The idea of separating moderate from fundamentalist Muslims is used to delegitimize efforts to restrict immigration into European countries, (whether or not leftists considers them to be the products of &#8220;European usurpation&#8221;).  The Turks causing all the violence in Cologne aren&#8217;t necessarily devout.  Who cares?  Moderate Muslims are fully capable of <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzammil_Hassan" rel="nofollow">beheading their spouses</a>, <a HREF="http://looklex.com/e.o/pahlavi1.htm" rel="nofollow">sympathizing with Hitler</a>, calling for the murder of Rushie, etc.  If Europe keeps out self-described Muslim extremists, but not the Muzzammil Hassans, it&#8217;s not much good for Europe, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Golikeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Golikeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even assuming the lampshades part is an &quot;urban legend,&quot; you missed the whole point. My point was that justifying success or victory on a raw &quot;might is right&quot; basis, taken to its logical extreme, leads to things as horrible as Hitler, Genghis Khan, or whatever. 

From the time you take the attitude &quot;I won, so that makes me right,&quot; you might as well tear up the Constitution and let jungle law reign. Far from the &quot;pro-immigration left&quot; admitting defeat, I have only proven my point. Hitler was the antithesis of the West in its positive side, but the apotheosis of its darker side. 

He repudiated due process of law, respect for life, but enthroned racism and chauvinism. If people can throw even the pretense of moral justification out and feel justified merely on a might-is-right basis, that shows that the basic values of western or ANY civilization have been tossed out.

And for your information, Blode322, I DO approve of fine-tuning Muslim eligibility to immigrate to the USA. Not banning it outright, but distinguishing between moderate and fundamentalist varieties.

Muslims like Sadat or an modernized Turk? No problem. But radical, fundamentalist Muslims? They shouldn&#039;t even be allowed to visit as tourists. In addition to the fact that they might be plotting something, their ideas and ways are so antithetical to America&#039;s that it creates problems.

No, I agree with the right-wing about keeping terror-supporters out. My only disagreement ---- which really ruffled rightist feathers ---- was my statement that countries created by European usurpation have no moral right to keep out non-whites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even assuming the lampshades part is an &#8220;urban legend,&#8221; you missed the whole point. My point was that justifying success or victory on a raw &#8220;might is right&#8221; basis, taken to its logical extreme, leads to things as horrible as Hitler, Genghis Khan, or whatever. </p>
<p>From the time you take the attitude &#8220;I won, so that makes me right,&#8221; you might as well tear up the Constitution and let jungle law reign. Far from the &#8220;pro-immigration left&#8221; admitting defeat, I have only proven my point. Hitler was the antithesis of the West in its positive side, but the apotheosis of its darker side. </p>
<p>He repudiated due process of law, respect for life, but enthroned racism and chauvinism. If people can throw even the pretense of moral justification out and feel justified merely on a might-is-right basis, that shows that the basic values of western or ANY civilization have been tossed out.</p>
<p>And for your information, Blode322, I DO approve of fine-tuning Muslim eligibility to immigrate to the USA. Not banning it outright, but distinguishing between moderate and fundamentalist varieties.</p>
<p>Muslims like Sadat or an modernized Turk? No problem. But radical, fundamentalist Muslims? They shouldn&#8217;t even be allowed to visit as tourists. In addition to the fact that they might be plotting something, their ideas and ways are so antithetical to America&#8217;s that it creates problems.</p>
<p>No, I agree with the right-wing about keeping terror-supporters out. My only disagreement &#8212;- which really ruffled rightist feathers &#8212;- was my statement that countries created by European usurpation have no moral right to keep out non-whites.</p>
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		<title>By: Blode0322</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blode0322</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;lampshades&quot; thing is an urban legend.  Anyone who has studied the Holocaust knows it is not true.  The realities of the Holocaust were murder, starvation, torment, horrible medical experiments ... and that is quite enough without ahistorical mumbo-jumbo clouding things up.  

And with Golikeri&#039;s final post, Godwin&#039;s Law has been invoked, and the pro-immigration left has admitted defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;lampshades&#8221; thing is an urban legend.  Anyone who has studied the Holocaust knows it is not true.  The realities of the Holocaust were murder, starvation, torment, horrible medical experiments &#8230; and that is quite enough without ahistorical mumbo-jumbo clouding things up.  </p>
<p>And with Golikeri&#8217;s final post, Godwin&#8217;s Law has been invoked, and the pro-immigration left has admitted defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Golikeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Golikeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, Leibie baby. You seemed to imply that might is right in your &quot;Darwinist principles&quot; dissertation. In other words, History goes to the winners, so suck it up and live with it.

Well if that was your intention, you are in good company with that fiend who was the nemesis of your people ---- Adolph Hitler. He was the consummate &quot;survival of the fittest&quot; guy, who believed that Nordic whites were the best evolved, and that Jews and non-whites were subhumans who needed to be removed.

Indeed, part of the reason Hitler was so determined to rid Germany of &quot;Juden&quot; was because he knew that, regardless of your superficial skin color, Ashkenazim are not completely white people in your genes.

So if you want to justify British and other white imperialism by saying winner takes all, that&#039;s exactly the excuse old Adolph used to justify turning you and your kin into lampshades.

Don&#039;t GO there, Leibie baby!  See this same &quot;Hitler&quot; that your people have every right to be so angry about? That&#039;s exactly where might-is-right amorality ultimately leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, Leibie baby. You seemed to imply that might is right in your &#8220;Darwinist principles&#8221; dissertation. In other words, History goes to the winners, so suck it up and live with it.</p>
<p>Well if that was your intention, you are in good company with that fiend who was the nemesis of your people &#8212;- Adolph Hitler. He was the consummate &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221; guy, who believed that Nordic whites were the best evolved, and that Jews and non-whites were subhumans who needed to be removed.</p>
<p>Indeed, part of the reason Hitler was so determined to rid Germany of &#8220;Juden&#8221; was because he knew that, regardless of your superficial skin color, Ashkenazim are not completely white people in your genes.</p>
<p>So if you want to justify British and other white imperialism by saying winner takes all, that&#8217;s exactly the excuse old Adolph used to justify turning you and your kin into lampshades.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t GO there, Leibie baby!  See this same &#8220;Hitler&#8221; that your people have every right to be so angry about? That&#8217;s exactly where might-is-right amorality ultimately leads.</p>
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