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Another isolated incident

November 5, 2009   Immigration  

Picture 11The incidents will escalate more and more. And still, liberal Jews will insist that “it’s important not to generalize,” and of course, not change policy.

When will they wake up? The answer is, never. Liberal Jews would rather show each other how liberal and open minded they are than embrace reality.

Update: That’s a good girl, Vicki.

12 comments

1 Ichabod Chrain { 11.06.09 at 1:28 am }

What “s the isolated incident you’re talking about?

2 DK { 11.06.09 at 2:45 am }
3 formermuslim { 11.06.09 at 8:45 pm }

In the minds of many “anti-racists” the violence and societal breakdown we see in America is the price you pay for desegregation.

I mean it. The fifties were a superior era to the current nightmare but hey, “blacks had to sit in the back of the bus so no matter what the post fifties will always be superior”. This I imagine is the thinking of many a leftist.

How long will that excuse work?

4 Sarah/froylein { 11.07.09 at 5:53 am }

The fifties only were a superior era compared to the horrors that had preceded them. Socially, they were marked by neo-Puritanism; the Rock’n'Roll “movement” was a counter-movement but its effects remained mostly confined to pop music. What, looking back, some might confuse for the stellar social make-up of the fifties was conformism at the price of an odd take on human rights and unity forged by fear of transgressing social norms and boundaries just as much as of perceived enemies of different political opinions.

I certainly do hope nobody wants to re-create second class citizens in exchange for plastic ideals.

5 formermuslim { 11.07.09 at 10:02 pm }

What you have right now is so much better I’m sure.

How long will leftists hold this notion of “we ended segregation, we can do no wrong”?

In the fifties America could make plastic. How are the socially superior double o’s holding up?

6 Sarah/froylein { 11.08.09 at 2:59 am }

What I / we have right now are general human and civil rights as opposed to fascism covered up by the plastic you adore. Just because people were trying to keep up the facade doesn’t mean life was great.

As for America’s ability to make things, it has missed the changes of times in global economy. Montane industries have been on the decline since the 1960s, rapidly so since the 1980s in Western countries and have only artifically been kept alive. The US has so much fallen behind economically that the Federal Reserve Bank had to artificially prevent the inflation of the US$ by reducing cash flow so the exchange rate of the US$ to the Euro wouldn’t drop below 50 US cents to the Euro. The current economic crisis came naturally but was not tackled by any government of the recent decades before it was too late.

If you wish to deny certain people human and civil rights, why do you live in a democratic country?
Maybe you would you rather also see women’s suffrage revoked. Maybe you would also endorse identification documents that name a person’s religious adherence.

Good thing for black people they already are easily identifiable otherwise you’d probably like them to wear a distinctive badge.

7 icr { 11.08.09 at 10:38 am }

What we have now is dictatorship in the guise of “human rights”:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014711.html
I’ve spent a significant portion of my career as a contractor working with various U.S. governmental agencies, departments, and bureaus, and especially DoD and the service branches. Over the last 25 years, I’ve noted the Long March of political correctness through the national security apparatus, and the Fort Hood massacre is a direct result of this transformation.

If this chap had been a Caucasian officer who’d made even a single derogatory statement about ethnic minorities, women, homosexuals, or Muslims, he would’ve been broken, his career over, and possibly even dishonorably discharged. In today’s Army, the slightest hint of judgmentalism or “insensitivity” is treated as a moral outrage and is a career-ender.

Maj. Hasan, however, is a member of two protected classes; he’s of Middle Eastern extraction, and he’s a Muslim. This puts him beyond reproach in today’s military. It turns out he was being investigated by the FBI, and surely Army CID were involved, as well, since he’s a serving Army officer, and yet nothing was done about his treasonous statements which alone should have resulted in his removal from duty and cashiering.

In the modern U.S. military, it is career death to criticize females, minorities, or Muslims on any grounds, as this will be taken as prima facie evidence of “racism” or “bias.” And so our military and supporting organizations are riddled with incompetents, malcontents, and, as we’ve now seen, traitors.

I very clearly remember my shock one day in the Pentagon ten or twelve years ago, when I saw a burn-bag of classified material being carried down a corridor by a female civilian of obvious Middle Eastern origin, wearing the black-and-white checkered hijab favored by many Palestinians. I was able to see her badge on its lanyard round her neck; she wasn’t even a contractor, but was a full-fledged GS-whatever DoD civil service employee. I just shook my head at the idiocy of the bureaucracy, knowing that someday we would pay a price for bringing such people into the very heart of our nation’s defenses. (My imagination back then didn’t run to the extent of a uniformed commissioned officer shooting his fellow soldiers; I figured we’d end up with a civilian employee suicide bomber, possibly a female like the one I’d just observed. I guess I was just behind the times, heh.)

What exists in the DOD is simply a slight exaggeration of what prevails in society as a whole.

8 formermuslim { 11.08.09 at 2:44 pm }

“What I / we have right now are general human and civil rights as opposed to fascism covered up by the plastic you adore. Just because people were trying to keep up the facade doesn’t mean life was great.”

Yes yes, I get it. Blacks were segregated. The supreme evil of the century. etc etc.

And now blacks are respondible for 50% of all murders in the USA. Mostly but not completely among themselves. Huge improvement.

“As for America’s ability to make things, it has missed the changes of times in global economy. ”

Despite all the H1-B immmigrants they have been importing? Interesting. Next you’ll be telling that without these H1-B’s the decline of the US would have come sooner and more severely.

“If you wish to deny certain people human and civil rights, why do you live in a democratic country?
Maybe you would you rather also see women’s suffrage revoked. Maybe you would also endorse identification documents that name a person’s religious adherence.”

I think you need to stop listening to the voices in your head when you have a conversation with someone.

“Good thing for black people they already are easily identifiable otherwise you’d probably like them to wear a distinctive badge.”

What does all this have to do with immigrants in the united states, legal and illegal, causing problems?

9 formermuslim { 11.08.09 at 2:48 pm }

I figured out sarah/froylein’s thinking. It goes something like this:

The united states committed crimes against black people, therefore it must apologize to hispanics and pay reparations through immigration policy.

10 Sarah/froylein { 11.08.09 at 4:15 pm }

What I think and know is that fascistoid paranoia has always only been counterproductive.

And I’ve seen many an immigrant to the US and to the UK that has got a better command of the English language than you do. That should give you some food for thought provided you’re capable of that.

11 formermuslim { 11.08.09 at 4:53 pm }

“And I’ve seen many an immigrant to the US and to the UK that has got a better command of the English language than you do.”

I don’t live in an English speaking country. So yes, they should have a better command of the English language than I do.

“That should give you some food for thought provided you’re capable of that.”

No, unfortunately your life experiences don’t mean much to me.

12 Sarah/froylein { 11.08.09 at 5:40 pm }

Thought doesn’t appear to mean much to you either.

To elaborate on one of Mo’s favourite lines, there’s no fanatism like the fervor of anyone who believes to have seen the light.

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